*Author's note: This is a fictional interview between two fictional characters. I have never interviewed "Dr." Kermit Gosnell.
Intro music: something peppy, with a saxophone. The screen reads: LIVE FROM THE UTERUS WITH DAVE THE UNBORN BABY! Dave the Unborn Baby floats in a dark pink cocoon of placental warmth. He is about 24 weeks gestation and has a winning personality, laid-back and charming. Applause.
Dave the Unborn Baby: Thank you, thank you! Ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna get little bit serious here tonight. We have right here, live in the studio, the infamous abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell. Now, as many of you know, Dr. Gosnell was an abortionist working in Philadelphia until 2011. He is now on trial for seven counts of first degree murder. Sounds of "oooooh" from the audience.
Dave: It's been in the news some. Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? Apparently, he was known for running an exceptionally shoddy clinic. Urine on the floor. Women having their uteruses perforated. Unlicensed staff providing medical care. Filthy facilities. Just a terrible story. And you know, as an unborn baby myself, I really wanted to get Dr. Gosnell in here and let him kind of tell us where he's coming from. So let's bring him out. Dr. Gosnell! Dr. Gosnell enters and sits to polite applause.
Dave: First of all, Doctor, I just want to thank you for being with us here today.
Dr. Kermit Gosnell: Thank you, Dave. It's a real pleasure.
Dave: I know you're busy with the trial and everything, so we appreciate you taking the time to talk to us, to share your side of the story.
Dr. Kermit: I really appreciate the opportunity.
Dave: So, let's get right down to it. You were into the third trimester abortions in particular, right? That's was kind of your thing.
Dr. Kermit: It was, Dave. It was my specialty, sort of. The viable babies.
Dave: What was that all about?
Dr. Kermit: Well. (Sigh.) You know, I guess I just like killing babies? And the more they looked like babies, the more I liked it, I guess. To be honest, it's hard to pin down the motivation in my mind. It's a real mess in there. In my mind, I mean.
Dave: Because you're such a sick psycho?
Dr. Kermit: Yes, exactly. I guess, first of all there was the demand, you know, from women who were gonna have to give birth pretty soon and for whatever reason they just decided, you know, Never mind. I'd rather not give birth. And these women, a lot of them, before I came along, would end up just giving birth. And I thought, well, that's where I could come in. Before the birth. And stop that from happening.
Dave: Death instead of birth, then.
Dr. Kermit: Right. Because I enjoy killing. You know, there are other things I could have done with my life, to make money. Other types of medicine I could have practiced. Medicine is a fairly lucrative career no matter how you slice it. (Laughs.) That's a little pun I like to make.
Dr. Kermit: But here I saw this opportunity to take these women, usually scared, uninformed, sometimes even coerced women, to take them into my care and spread their legs and pull their babies out and snip their spinal cords with scissors. And I mean, what can I say? I saw the opportunity and I took it.
Dr. Kermit: Because, seriously, think of how rare it is, to get to take babies out of people, stab them in the neck or cut their heads off right there in front of them, and they pay you? I made over a million dollars a year doing that. I mean, that's pretty... I don't know if the word is progressive? But it's something.
Dave: It sure is.
Dr. Kermit: It's the American dream, in a way.
Dr. Kermit: And so I couldn't really assemble a crackerjack team for my staff, could I? The, uh, the crackerjacks, as it were, the real licensed nurses and doctors, they had real jobs, with the healing and whatnot. That's why I had all the unlicensed staff. I had a 15-year-old administering anesthesia. (Laughs.) You know, women sitting on filthy recliners, urine and blood everywhere, spreading venereal diseases with dirty instruments, perforating their organs. I think there was even a flea-ridden cat in the clinic, wandering around.
Dave: That's pretty gross.
Dr. Kermit: Well, I mean, what was I gonna do, put him out on the street? That would be cruel.
Dave: Indeed. Now, Doctor, I've read stories about babies jumping when their heads were severed, or crying out.
Is that true?
Dr. Kermit: Sure, sure. Anybody would, wouldn't they?
Dave: Wow. You're really a sick monster.
Dr. Kermit: I sure am, Dave.
Dave: So what's next for you?
Dr. Kermit: Prison, probably? I don't know. I'll never practice medicine again. Not legally, anyway. (Laughs.) But you know, I had a good run.
Dave: Let's say you're in prison, and someone's about to stab you in the neck. How would you feel about it?
Dr. Kermit: Well, I wouldn't like it very much.
Dave: What if it were legal to stab you in the neck?
Dr. Kermit: Well. But it's not.
Dave: Very true. Well, Doctor, again I'd like to thank you for being with us here.
Dr. Kermit: Thank you, Dave. But before I go, are you 100% sure your mother wants you? Because I brought my scissors...
Dave: Dr. Kermit Gosnell, ladies and gentlemen. Polite applause.
When I was a teenager and well into my 20s, Kurt Vonnegut was my favorite writer. I still appreciate his work, although now when I revisit it, I find things that bother me.
One particular passage (I forget in which novel) found Vonnegut describing a porno shop. For those of you who are significantly younger than I and/or don’t read ancient history, this was a place that existed before the internet, when in order to acquire pornographic materials one had to go out in public and purchase them. Withmoney. Dark, scary times.
Anyway, Vonnegut described the shop as “a silly place, all about love and babies.” (I am relying on memory, but I believe this is far more accurate than not.)
I remember being blown away by that. I was struck by how enlightened and how true it was. How Vonnegutian. He was right, I thought. Porn wasn’t about shame or hurting people. It was a natural consequence of the fact that men found women desirable and lovely. It meant that men loved women and wanted to participate in baby-making acts with them. That was what porn was about.
I felt a smug sense of righteousness that I was so enlightened now. I understood porn, while most people grossly misunderstood it. It wasn’t porn that was perverse; the real perverts were the people who didn’t realize that it was, deep down, “all about love and babies.” – those who, instead of indulging their natural, healthy, loving, lusty natures, twisted something beautiful and simple into something negative and mysterious and even ugly.
“Porn keeps families together,” I used to say, half because I believed it and half to shock people. I would explain that pornography kept people’s marriages alive. Couples could watch porn together and get turned on and then have healthy consensual sex. Men could watch porn and indulge fantasies without “actually” cheating. Meanwhile, the people acting in the pornos could make a living and do something fun and healthy and not at all perverse.
Porn was natural. Porn was necessary. Porn was, in a way, wholesome. I believed all this.
Then I saw some porn.
You have to remember that the internet, around this time, was dial-up. It consisted of AOL Instant Messenger and e-mail, and a fraction of what we now call at the internet. Each page was delivered to you at roughly the speed at which water boils at medium heat. And it was difficult to log on secretly in the middle of the night because the sound of the modem dialing up (don’t worry about what this means) was a cacophony of screeches, blips, and hisses, sometimes lasting several minutes, guaranteed to wake everyone in your home, and possibly your neighbor’s home.
Also, if I’m not mistaken, you still had to pay for porn back then. With money.
So I was about nineteen years old when I first saw actual porn. And that whole business about porn being all about love and babies? Yeah, not so much.
I was with a bunch of friends at my boyfriend’s house when someone put in a VHS tape (you can google that if you need to) of some porno. There was a time not so long ago when a young man could never have imagined playing a pornographic video in a room full of young ladies. Those days are gone. Because FEMINISM. Because women are no different from men, right? And we are expected to look at the porn and shrug and be “cool” with it.
This is the new thing. This is what is expected of post-feminist women. We must be “cool” with porn, or, at the very least, “okay” with it. To be anything else would be hypocritical as feminists. We want “equality,” right? Well, there it is: women behaving just like men. Namely, by wantonly having sex with whoever. And by finding nothing at all disgusting about watching another woman be assailed by unfamiliar genitals for money.
So I sat there and I looked at the porn. I didn’t see love or babies. I didn’t really even see sex, not as I understood it. I saw violence.
I immediately thought back to the pornographic magazines I’d found in my friend’s dad’s closet when I was a kid. I remembered the violent imagery, the disgusting jokes, the little cartoon that made light of rape. I thought I’d stumbled upon something from the fringe, something dark and out of the ordinary. And I was surprised when, years later, I found out that the magazine – Hustler – was considered pretty mainstream and had about a zillion subscribers.
Later, I put it out of my mind. I was enlightened and Vonnegutian now.
Except the reality – the actual porn – was proving Vonnegut wrong. These weren’t beautiful ladies being caressed lovingly by men with passion in their smoldering eyes. These were 19-year-old girls with fake breasts and zero body hair being pummeled like desirable pieces of willing meat.
You know that saying, “If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…”? This looked like humiliation. It quacked like humiliation.
What does abortion have to do with porn? They are both the end game.
Abortion and pornography are, in different ways, the extreme of what we get when we stop treating sex like something sacred or important. The dictionary definition of the verb “pervert” means to “alter (something) from its original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended.”
Porn perverts sex. When you pervert sex – when you make it about using other people, making money, or titillating the masses – you distort and corrupt it. Creating life and bringing two married people closer together – that’s the intended purpose of sex. Not profit. Not recreation.
I’m old enough now to know I was wrong when I said “Porn saves families.” I’ve literally seen it do the opposite to families. I’ve watched women I know struggle on two fronts: one, they’re devastated to learn that their boyfriends or husbands are addicted to porn, and literally can’t stop watching and lusting after other women, and two, they’re not supposed to mind. It’s supposed to be no big deal.
It’s almost de rigeur for comedians to talk about men watching porn and how all men do it and all men lie about it and this is reality and women should accept it.
Well, sorry. I don’t accept it. I don’t care if he knows her name or not – if my husband lusts after another woman, that’s infidelity, be it ever so humble. And when young men become hooked on porn before they’re even old enough to have relationships, it gives them dangerous, violent ideas about sex, and some seriously disturbing ideas about what women are supposed to look like and how they are supposed to behave.
I am one of those women who is not okay with porn, and that includes live soft-core porn – i.e., strip clubs. Yes, I’m that wife. I’m the annoying bee eye tee see aytch who won’t let my husband go to your bachelor party if I know you’re going to have a stripper. (And, yes, I can, within reason, tell my husband he can’t do things, just as he can tell me I can’t do things. Marriage is a contract.)
And in case you’re wondering, I won’t go to bachelorette parties if they involve male strippers. For one, respect is a two-way street. I don’t want to objectify a dude, even if he likes it. And for two, gross.
My home is a porn-free zone. You can roll your eyes and think I’m deluded, but I trust my husband, and moreover, I married a guy who shares my values, and who is concerned that what was once thrilling – Betty Grable in a short skirt and tight top – is now not enough.
Where soldiers used to pin up photos of scantily-clad, smiling, wholesome, Marilyn Monroe-type gals, they now go for silicone-enhanced, spread-eagled, air-brushed hoochies with hair extensions and false eyelashes and three pounds of eyeliner, replete with strategic bleaching and waxing, all splayed out, nothing left to the imagination. It’s more than offensive; it’s also aesthetically troublesome. It says not only that we are amoral, but that we are just, well, trashy.
I accept that I live in a postmodern freak show of a land where I can see things walking through the mall that would not even have been shown on late night television thirty years ago. I accept that my husband is going to inadvertently see what would once have been called soft-core porn just because we happen to have cable. And I’m not going to freak out every time he does.
But, ladies, we need to make a stand. We need to refuse to accept the menace of pornography in our lives. No matter what the fauxminists say, the sex trades do prey on women. They do hurt women.
And we need to stop buying the idea that being “cool” with porn means we’re enlightened and liberated. It means just the opposite. It means we’ve bought a patriarchal lie that selling our bodies, taking pills that subvert our bodies, and allowing our children to be ripped out of our bodies is somehow good for us.
It isn’t. We should know better.
Make your home a porn-free zone. Make your life a porn-free experience. Don’t give in to the temptation to objectify other people, and don’t believe the lie that when your significant other or husband or wife looks at porn, it doesn’t affect you. It does. The viewer of porn disrespects the people he watches, himself, and his significant other.
As women, if we’re going to demand respect, we need to give it. A culture of life starts with respecting human beings enough to say no – not only to their killing as unborn children, but to their degradation as adults. We need to recognize and reject the perversion of sex and the objectification of humans that leads to abortion.
To build a culture of life, we have to say NO – unapologetically – to pornography.