Two weeks ago before filming our January episode of LifeTalk, a
particular gauntlet was thrown down. In case you've forgotten, let me refresh
your memory: Mark Crutcher said we might have time to discuss the use of
graphic images on the show, at which point he looked over at me (seeing as I
was the only person in the room against their use) and in true Mark Crutcher
fashion smirked because he knew he'd basically just fed me to the
wolves. You then replied by asking if I was indeed against their use, and
when I responded "yes" you said, and I quote, "I'm going to make
you cry like a little baby and beg everyone here for forgiveness for thinking
that way."
While it was said in jest (mostly) I won't lie, I was rather
intimidated. Which is why I then went on to completely bomb during our taping
since the entire time rather than focusing on our round table topics I was
preparing my points, oh, and picturing you, sir, crying like a
little baby. And it was awesome. However, we ran out of time and it'll be two
more months until we have the chance to discuss this on LifeTalk so I've
decided to challenge you to an online debate.
Because, after all, everyone knows all the world's problems will
be solved on the internet.
Here's how this will work- I'll go first, and then if you choose
to accept this challenge I will post your reply unedited in this same blog post
(get one of your grandkids to explain what that means if you don't understand).
If you choose not to reply, I can only assume it's because
you've become so overwhelmed by tears you're unable to functionally operate a
keyboard since your complete wrongness on this issue has crushed your spirit and
you can no longer hold your head up to see what you are typing.
Okay, so enough yammering. Here is why I do not believe in using
giant pictures of aborted babies outside of abortion clinics:
More than being anti-graphic images, I am pro what works and I
do not believe these are the most effective weapons pro-lifers have in their
arsenal. (note to NSA: that was just a metaphor.)
If you talk to the people who are out on the sidewalks, having
multiple saves a week, you will find that one of the most powerful resources
they have are mobile sonogram units. I don't know why, but when these women
going in for abortions see "Malachi" or the other precious babies
whose mothers chose abortion, they are not seeing what you and I are seeing.
However, when they see sonograms of their own living, thriving babies inside
their wombs they change their minds. And they're doing this at an insanely
awesome rate.
In order to understand why that's the case, we must understand
where these (often young) women are coming from, and I do. I've been sixteen
and pregnant, and terrified out of my mind. You're running on pure emotion and
a burst of hormones when facing a crisis pregnancy, and honestly you need real
answers. Real resources. Real help. You need to know it is possible for you to
have your child without your whole life being flip upside down. And if the
sidewalk counselors standing out there offering those very resources cannot get
that message across in the seconds they have while that woman is pulling
into the parking lot and walking into the clinic, then odds are that young
woman will feel like abortion is her only option.
Which brings me to my next point: You cannot fight fear with
fear. What emotions women feel when seeing these images will likely shape her next steps. If they induce feelings of disgust and anger, she will contrast that with how she feels inside the clinic. I know most of the individuals who use graphic signs on the sidewalks are
out there to let the women know exactly what they're doing and face the truth of
abortion before they make a choice that cannot be undone. Unfortunately, what
it comes across as to a majority of these women is condemnation. They have
already been warned about the "mean and nasty pro-lifers" when they
made their appointment on the phone, and so when they see you, they turn away.
You've successfully made the most dangerous place in the world seem like a safe
haven as they rush in the doors of that abortion clinic.
To truly understand this, please, please, please talk to
as many post abortive women as you can. The ones who are now pro-life are such
a vital wealth of knowledge to us. They have spent countless hours thinking
about the biggest mistake they've ever made; wondering what would've caused
them to change their mind... knowing what didn't. I've talked to so many who
have said they would not walk up to someone holding a sign in a million years.
And I've also talked to others who desperately wished someone would've been out
there offering them an alternative.
Now, this next part is going to sound harsh and I've really
debated whether not to even include this in my argument but I truly believe
some of the people out there with their bullhorns and grim reaper costumes need
to hear it. I have been called a coward many times for not supporting the use of
graphic images, as if this were all about placating the masses or winning
popularity contests with pro-choicers. But to put it bluntly, I think many of the people (not all, but some) who are holding up these 8ft. signs of aborted babies are using them as a cop out,
whether they know it or not. I'm not saying they aren't good people, but when
you basically have a giant sign in front of you shielding you from the very
women in crisis you're trying to help, I have to wonder if you care more about
actually saving them and their children, or simply checking the "did
pro-life work today" box. In my experience, it is much harder to engage an abortion minded
woman in a life or death conversation (knowing she might still choose abortion) which will leave you tossing and turning at night wondering what you could've said
differently, than it is to hold a sign up for a few hours on a sidewalk and deflect a few one finger salutes. That
method is outdated and I firmly believe it costing us lives. Don't get me wrong, I admire the passion and
willingness to be out there when so many others refuse to speak up for the unborn but it's time everyone
steps it up a notch. Do you want to save babies or not? Do you want to help
scared, confused women avoid one of the worst mistakes they'll ever make? If
so, then it's time to work smarter. I'm sick of hearing, "Well, we saved 10
babies last year with graphic signs." What if you could've saves a
thousand? It's time we join together and find out what works best, and what
doesn't work at all and is driving women into these clinics.
Sidewalk counselors will tell you it is exponentially harder to
get a woman to come over to the fence or sidewalk if there is someone standing
nearby with a large graphic sign. And these same counselors employ smaller
graphics themselves in their handouts, but when they are vulgarly displayed by
someone pacing back and forth it completely obliterates that tool. See,
sidewalk counselors realize one key thing that we all need to
understand: The conversation that goes along with these images is VITAL. A
precious child gave it's life for that image and we need to respect the power
it holds.
When someone sees one of these pictures and it is not put into
context, and it's not part of a discussion where a foundation of trust has already
been laid, the viewer is left to figure out your motives all on their own. I can tell you, nine times out of ten, they assume you're only doing it out of
judgement & condemnation. That is why people flip you off as they drive
by... not because they hate "seeing the truth," but because they
think you're a self-righteous a-hole.
Now Troy, I
know that you yourself were converted by a graphic image in your twenties, so I look forward to your rebuttal. Also, please note I'm only discussing the use of graphic images outside of the abortion clinics here, not
on college campuses or on trucks driving around town. Although you can bet I
have pretty strong opinions about those too. ;)
P.S. Let me know if you need me to ship you some Kleenex.
Your friend (who loves you enough to tell you when she thinks you're super wrong),
Destiny
Troy's Response...
Updated 3:20pm 1/17/14
Troy's Response...
Updated 3:20pm 1/17/14
Dear Destiny,
I am going to accept your offer to
ship me a box of Kleenex. I keep a box on my desk, and I regularly take them
with me for outreaches at abortion clinics, colleges, and virtually every place
we display the pictures of the victims of abortion. I use the Kleenex to wipe
away the tears I shed for the millions of helpless children who have been
violently murdered by a society that views abortion as a political topic to be
callously debated at the polls.
I understand very well why you don't
like the images, Destiny; because I don't like them either. These victims’ photographs are heartbreaking.
In fact, if anyone could view the photographic evidence of abortion and not
feel emotionally pressed then I would suggest taking their pulse, because they
obviously lack a heart.
So, please, send me a case of
Kleenex. I need them. I need them because I’ve personally held the tiny remains
of babies recovered from the trash cans of abortion mills. My heart is broken
for those precious babies. I have also read the autopsy results and seen the
autopsy photographs of mothers who died on the abortion table. More heartache
and tears.
And I know that you know this. You undoubtedly know that abortion is not an
abstract idea without real consequences. It is more deadly than Fukushima; it
has been more effective in genocide than Pol Pot, the Khmer Rouge, Stalin,
Hitler and Mussolini combined. You could add in the deaths of the Revolutionary
War, the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan and the Iraq
war and still not get close to the 55 million corpses created by the Abortion
Cartel.
And that Abortion Cartel – the bad
guys in this fight – never had to flee the righteous indignation that once
engulfed this country over slavery and the Axis powers. Instead, these hired assassins just set up
their death chambers on Main Street, USA, and started basking in the power of
the White House, the political elite, and the mass media. The Abortion Cartel
is defended by every enforcement agency with an acronym – FBI, ATF, NSA, SWAT,
IRS…. And you and I? Well, we fund the
human carnage, as the United States Treasury (aka, your tax dollars) dumps
truckloads of money into the coffers of the death dealers.
While the murder mills churn out
dead children like a coal plant spits out carbon-dioxide, spineless politicians
place abortion on the same level as a tax cut, building a school, or some other
throwaway item to be debated in the next election cycle (if we are lucky enough
for them to mention it at all).
Oh, and what about the people of
faith and good conscience? You know, the ones who darken the halls of our local
churches, synagogues, and houses of God? Yeah, those guys can't be troubled
with "divisive issues.” They don't
have the stomach to talk about, let alone do anything about, the human carnage
taking place just a few blocks from their houses of worship. They are too busy
being nice, and liked, and not making waves. (I believe there is a special
place in hell for those sorts of hypocrites.)
And, to make it worse, some of these so-called men and women of god actually
"sanction," "bless," and "endorse" the inhuman
act of tearing babies heads from their torsos. One such church, Presbyterian
Church (USA), has a General Assembly that voted to "endorse" the
grotesque act of partial birth abortion. Time and words will not permit me to
tell of the apostasy of denominations like ELCA, United Methodists, and
Episcopal “churches.” (The parable of the Good Samaritan hits directly on this
point. How many leaders pass on the other side of the road as victims cry out
for help?)
To recap, the majority of the people
in the United States view abortion as just one issue of many. For them,
abortion is just an abstract and theoretical idea with minimal consequences.
Unfortunately, many pro-lifers have adopted a similar faulty concept – that
somehow abortion ought to be fought but not defeated, that abortion, although
bad, is not a ghoulish evil of unspeakable proportions.
Abortion is not an "issue.” It’s
a baby that once had a beautiful beating heart, but was then hacked to death
and tossed into our landfills – or sold to a death-starved medical research
company to be used for Island of Dr. Moreau-like experiments.
My point, Destiny, is while the
babies’ bodies stack up like cord wood and the enemies of the children surround
us at every turn, how can we, as true advocates of these babies, fail to use
every tool we have at our disposal to end the slaughter? We need all hands on
deck, and every able-bodied person using all their gifts and abilities to fight
this war to its conclusion.
Viewing the results of abortion is
upsetting; it will make you nauseous. The images are so disturbing, in fact,
that the purveyors of death who can debate "choice," or even the
abstract idea, are immediately defeated every single time the objective images
of the children physically paying for their "choice" are displayed.
Consequently, the death merchants
and their minions go to extreme measures to silence their tiny voices that
speak from the grave. I have been falsely arrested, sued and even had my Truth
Trucks illegally impounded for displaying victim imagery.
Just this week, I was in Los Angles
testifying at a trial over why we use such graphic pictures. A few years ago, the
lighting crew of Jimmy Kimmel's show was doing an outside taping while we were
on Hollywood Boulevard. The crew and the police decided they did not want to
see the truth of abortion, so they turned their powerful spotlights on our
youth group. Our kids suffered burns and one of our members was falsely
arrested. But, this week the advocates of death were forced to re-see the truth
and paid a dear price as they paid a huge sum of money to settle the case. The sweetest point, however, wasn’t the
win. It was when the defendants openly
wept for the babies and prayed with us, even after they lost the lawsuit. For
them, the pictures took abortion from a political pawn to an objective horror
and our defeated opponents vowed to cease their apathetic path.
You see, Destiny, the abortion
victim images have the unique power to change hearts and minds with just a
glance. The reason polls reflect that pro-life
sentiment is increasing is largely due to the widespread use of the imagery. My
personal experience has been that thousands upon thousands of people have
converted to our side simply by viewing these images. I have spent the better
part of the last 20 years displaying and advocating for the use of such photography.
Like Able, whose blood called to God from the ground, the abortion victims have
something to say from the grave.
Using pictures of postnatal
children, or cute sonogram pictures, simply do not have the same impact on
people. Even the proaborts agree that a live baby is good. Equally true: a dead
baby is bad. However, with every photo
of that dead child the hypocrisy of the death supporters is immediately exposed
and crushed.
It has been said that a picture is
worth a thousand words. Well, these
pictures are worth more than the countless words on countless reams of pro-life
literature that have been written in the last 40 years. There is simply no
better way to communicate the objective truth that abortion is a vile evil.
So, Destiny, don't join hands with
those who advocate for death by silencing the cries of the victims. Let the
victims speak, so that we can end the killing. Don't give in to the lie of
being "nice" or not wanting to "hurt feelings." And, if you
or anyone else is upset by the photos, then go ahead and grab some Kleenex and
weep. But then, stand up and renew your
strength, and fight this battle to win it.
My response:
Updated 4:48pm 1/19/14
Finally, I want to focus specifically on images being used at the clinic again, by mentioning one of the fastest growing demographics when it comes to abortion: Women who already have children.
Troy's Response:
posted 1/30/14
Men talking about graphic images.
My response:
Updated 4:48pm 1/19/14
Brought to you by Kleenex. ...really wish we would've worked out a product placement deal with them. |
Troy, I know you’re a very busy man and when you’re not
getting arrested for something badass, you’re flying somewhere badass. So
thanks for taking the time to engage in this debate.
That said, I want to make two things very clear right off
the bat:
1.) This will be my last rebuttal. Blog posts are only meant
to go on so long, and as I said, I know you have more important things to do
with your time than argue with me on the internets. (…and oh yeah, I kinda have some
childrens to be raise’n myself.)
2.) I adore you, Troy. You’re an amazing leader and embody everything
that makes a dude rad: Charismatic, Charming, and fightin’ for
the bebes. Nothing you do comes from a place of selfishness or malcontent. Your
heart’s in the right place, and there is no bad blood between us.
That said, I’ve been dreading your rebuttal for weeks now,
because before I begin any argument I flesh out all of my own weaknesses. “What
are the best points they could be made against my argument”, “how will I
respond to x, y, & z?” And so I was all ready for something addressing the
issue of graphic images outside of abortion clinics, but instead you addressed
their use in general and it kinda threw me off. I felt like it was somewhat emotional and rather abstract. And while I appreciate the lesson in graphic signs 101, I don't know that it actually addressed any of my true concerns.
If I were you, I would’ve started with the reason why you,
personally, support graphic signs. I hinted to your conversion story in my
original post and I think that plays a key role.
I don’t have the audacity to claim I know the full story but
I believe it went something like this- You were in your mid-twenties and someone
showed you an image of an aborted child. Immediately the blinders came off and
you saw abortion for what it truly was and from that day on you committed to
putting an end to it.
That is noble. I commend the person who showed you that
image. They’ve made an impact on the movement far more than they will probably even know.
And so you rightly assume if it worked on you, why would it not work on others in the exact same way?
I think our own personal experiences (mine included) are
what make this debate so emotional. I say that because you are not alone. Over
the past few weeks I have been bombarded with (mostly) men and women who’ve
disagreed with my initial post on this blog and claimed to have similar
experiences. It’s as though they feel personally attacked, and like I’m saying
I wish they never would’ve seen the light, or that I don’t think those babies they saved through this method are valuable.
That is absolutely not true.
I say, “Heck Yeah! That is awesome!” everytime I hear of
anything working because I spend a pretty huge chunk of my time trying to
open people’s eyes to the reality of abortion so I’m totally pumped whenever
(and however) it happens. I merely want us to be as efficient as possible in
our efforts.
These signs are basically the napalm of our movement. For
all the good they do I feel they do just as much bad.
(I know a lot of you just tried to punch your computer. I’m
very sorry. Please go get some ice for your fist then come back and try to hear
what I’m actually saying. We accuse the people who blow past graphic signs without
any consideration of being callous and closed minded, so we must be better than
that ourselves. Truly attempt to hear what I’m saying. It is not a personal attack, as I
know we are all on the same side. I just want you to consider a different perspective.)
I want what works. Bottom line. I want us to work smarter and not harder. While graphic images certainly have worked in the past, I think it’s time to take an honest account of the affect they are having now. We don’t have the luxury of using techniques that we “think” might…. probably…. sort of work… sometimes. That’s certainly not what Planned Parenthood is doing. They are researching what works and readapting constantly. We must be saving more women and children from abortion than we did last month, last year, and last decade. We have to be growing and reassessing just like our opposition.
I want what works. Bottom line. I want us to work smarter and not harder. While graphic images certainly have worked in the past, I think it’s time to take an honest account of the affect they are having now. We don’t have the luxury of using techniques that we “think” might…. probably…. sort of work… sometimes. That’s certainly not what Planned Parenthood is doing. They are researching what works and readapting constantly. We must be saving more women and children from abortion than we did last month, last year, and last decade. We have to be growing and reassessing just like our opposition.
Now Troy, since you opened the door to us discussing their use in
general, and not just at the clinics, I will address that as well.
What was necessary in ’73 when we had subpar sonogram equipment and little access to fetal development information might have been these images. But now, I firmly believe they are turning more hearts against us than for us.
What was necessary in ’73 when we had subpar sonogram equipment and little access to fetal development information might have been these images. But now, I firmly believe they are turning more hearts against us than for us.
How do I know that? Because I know the men and women who
drive by you and flip the bird or scream obscenities out their windows. I
know the women who said they blew past such demonstrations at the clinic or
snuck in a different way to avoid them all together. I study these women and
because so many are friends of mine they allow me to pick their brains about
exactly what those signs made them think and feel.
Last week I posed this question on my facebook. I’m blessed
to be a writer here in Dallas, so my professional network is made up
of vastly different opinions, and most are highly intelligent and thoughtful
people. They have considered their stance on this issue thoroughly and so I
knew they would be able to articulate their thoughts rather well.
Right off the bat this was brought up by a few of the women.
I found that very interesting, as I had not ever correlated our graphic images with theirs.
Just for fun, think about what you would do if you saw
someone holding that infamous black and white picture of the woman folded over
bleeding out on the floor from a DIY at-home abortion. Would your heart
immediately break for her? Would you go up and ask the sign holder to tell you
more about the image? Or would your first thought be, “That’s what she gets.”
Be honest. Not with me, but with yourself. Images that abrasive and intense are
too much for our brains to handle. They scare us, and rather than feeling fear which we deem a weakness,
we get angry.
We must realize, when pro-choicers are seeing our signs,
they’re having the exact same experience just in reverse. That’s why we get
“F*** YOU!”’s rather than broken hearts coming to us for honest dialogue.
I went on to ask what she would do if she saw one of these
signs while driving with her daughter. (I often try to imagine the discussions
that go on in cars as the truth trucks drive by since there is no opportunity
for dialogue). Here was her response, because she had actually experienced such
a situation.
The whole thread is still up on my facebook page if you feel
like reading through 150+ pretty interesting comments, but I would encourage
you to have your own discussions with the pro-choice friends. It’s so
incredibly eye opening, and will ultimately help us fight this battle better.
So when it comes to images being used away from the clinic I
will just say this- there’s a huge difference between “looking” and “seeing.”
As Oswald Chambers so wisely said, “Eyes that look are common; eyes that see
are rare.” You have a responsibility when showing victims of abortion to make
sure people actually see their humanity, otherwise, like
I said, it’s merely napalm scourging the hearts of many, rather than igniting
change.
Finally, I want to focus specifically on images being used at the clinic again, by mentioning one of the fastest growing demographics when it comes to abortion: Women who already have children.
Let that sink in for a minute.
Women who already know exactly what that tiny little 8-week,
10-week, 12-week fetus will become in just a few months, are still choosing to
abort. Women who know they are terminating not only a child but also a sibling,
are still choosing to abort. Women who were at one point delighted and
fascinated by their “What’s new with your baby this week” e-mails throughout their previous pregnancy are still choosing to abort. That means there’s a cold hard
fact we need to face: They aren’t aborting because they do not know that child
is a human being… they are aborting because even though they do, they are that
desperate.
If we truly want to end abortion--and save babies--we need to do what works best, and most consistently by going after the root cause of it- fear. With help and resources for these women in need they will be able to consider other options. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is speak
gently in love when all we want to do is scream out for justice. I know
that. But it’s not about us, is it? It’s about them, and what we can do to keep
those women from making the biggest mistake of their lives, and their precious
children safe from harm.
Again, I admire all that you do Troy (as well as all of my
other amazing pro-life friends who disagree with me here). I only ask you to consider what I’m saying and really take it to heart.
If you have anything else to say, the last word is yours. Just send it to me when you get around to it
and I’ll post it immediately.
For Life,
Destiny
Troy's Response:
posted 1/30/14
Men talking about graphic images.